4 Minutes (2024) Episode 4
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i forgot to mention š Tong kla finallyyy got it raw š¤š¤š¤ i was smiling in that scen he must have been really satisfied
so basically Tong kla learned everything from korn š¤. The feelings Tong kla has for korn is deeper dn i thought… he was his first but m not sure if korn feels the same as he couldnt keep his promise. m getting more interested on how this triangle will develope poor cop tho he got his heart broken somehow. AND WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT ENDING???? is Tonkla’s Timeline different then great’s?? soo title actually killed that guy that night! is everything great seeing just in his mind !? i was wondering how title was alright to come after great the next day. OH shit this is soooo confusing
And i like how slow and natural their first time happened for tyme and great. i dont like it when they make these kinda scens a running and taking clothes off competition š…
i understand great helping tyme he also doesnt like his family so yeahh its understandable that he would wanna help.
one thing i learned about this series is there is no way one can anticipate whats gonna happen next.. This for sure is an unpredictable storyy.
i was like DEeymmmm š with great’s tattoooos cant get them out of my head they are stuck there for ever š¤Ŗš¤Ŗ
The more I look at it the more I think its Ton Kla. The small hexagonal head shape, small plump lips and bangs landing below the eye. Also that hooded figure was bashing someone with a rock while smoking a cigarette. Now who else do we know that has a drug/smoking addiction? Ton Kla.
But what would be the reason he’d kill his brother? Or since there are multiple timelines what If it’s someone else he decided to take revenge on?
I KNEW that was his brother I knew it šš
OG timeline theory:From watching ep 1, this seems like the original timeline of Tyme possibly trying to rescue Nan or discovering more about the illegal business dealings of Korn and Great’s family and ends up being shot by one of Korn’s men. Meanwhile Great is in the hospital in critical condition and it’s because he ends up in the same scenario as Tyme, except he ends up getting hospitalized and Tyme ends up dying alone. Learning about what his family is involved in (esp if it involves death like let’s say Nan actually died too) is such a betrayal for him that if we are going for the comatose theory he could be dreaming up of a scenario where he and his older brother are very close to each other.
I thought this series will be a simple saving of Dr.Tyme from Great, when he goes back in time. But the series keep on unravelling their layers after layers.
Idk if it’s just me, but I feel like Great and Tyme haven’t had enough interaction for romantic feelings to develop š¤·āāļø It also doesn’t make sense to me that Great would betray his brother for a guy he barely knows, especially without gathering more information first
So far I’m more interested in what’s going on with Ton Kla. They’ve given so much information and backstory for him that he feels more like a main character than Great
I’m thinking right now, if there were parallel universes involved, or even two timelines, shouldn’t we have gotten the butterfly effect? Shouldn’t it have changed more things when Great changes things in present time?
Great is changing the things he sees right after he goes back in time. Like, first he sees Tyme, asks him what’s going on, and Tyme gets angry and leaves Great on the hospital rooftop. So what if he didn’t get that power to see four minutes in the future? I believe because he heard about Nan from Tyme, he still goes to get the info from Korn’s phone. If the four minutes thing don’t happen, the only thing he can’t change is saving Nan. He still would have sent that message to Tyme and Tyme still would have gone there, but the only one he would get to save is Great. And the intimate scene still would happen, with only one difference: they are not happy like they are here. (The lightning and Rain in the background when they are on the bridge. I found it strange in that scene that they were happy and laughing. That lightning in the distance just gave me a bad feeling that didn’t seem to match with the vibe).
If we think about it this way, then Title killing Dome still happens too. Great never saved him. But how about him meeting Tyme in the hospital? He was there cuz of that lady he hit with his car. The second time he was there for Dome – exactly the times he used that 4-min power to change things. So could it be that they never met by chance? Could it be that in reality, Tyme approached Great to use him against his family? Cuz it’s too much of e coincidence that Tyme is batman-ing to get revenge from Great’s family and then falls for Great.
And then he tells Great about his family being responsible for Tyme’s parents’ death and to prove he’s not with them, Great, who’s fallen head over heels for Tyme, goes and gets his own brother drunk and gets the info out of his phone to save Nan and he even don’t wait for Tyme and just goes there recklessly.
it also can explain why Great trusts Tyme so fast. I found it strange that he just went and used his brother for information. We saw that they have a very good relationship. That’s why I believe there are many things left out from Tyme and Great’s relationship and Great is narrating it the way he likes the most.
it all makes sense with your theory , if we think Great’s mind is rewriting the past in a way that fixes things or just hurts less (it seems Tyme gets shot and dies too in the opening of first episode).
It is increasingly seeming like there are at least two timelinesā¦.the first one has everything goes to shit, Tong Klaās brother Dome dies, possibly so does Greatā¦.and the alternative one where Great doesnāt die, and instead gains this time-travel ability whereby he travels back 4 minutes at critical junctures to help stop the shit, or at least some of the shit.
Tong Kla seems to have a dark and numbing past, which is probably the reason that he tends to give off the bad-boi vibes and also seem desperate and even fatalistic at timesā¦it is now clear that he loves Korn, and has turned to Win more in spite and anger that Korn was not around when Tong Kla needed him, and also because Win can help him find his brotherās murdererā¦poor Win seems slated for a sad end
Loved the tender foreplay between Great and Tyme, even though it did seem a tad suddenā¦as to the sex that followedā¦ummā¦.it was underwhelming. Great (Bible) seemed alright, but Tyme (Jes) somehow looked conscious and uncomfortable during the entire time
first and foremost, I’m confused tf out … but this is a really good show …my pookies …. THE TATTOOSS I REPEAT THE TATTOOSSSS …Somebody send help
It is almost 4 in the morning, but waited for Long beans and this. I am going to get some sleep right after my comment.
Up until now, everything appeared ‘normal’āif one can consider seeing four minutes into the future as normal. However, the revelation that Dome is Ton Kla’s brother complicates matters significantly. He was the one Great was supposed to have rescued in episode 2 from Dome’s kidnapper and future murderer, Title, yet he was found dead and cremated in this episode. This raises intriguing possibilities: Are we witnessing two parallel worlds, or are we experiencing Great’s mind while he is in a coma, or perhaps during a heart attack?
The possibilty of parallel worlds or alternate realities suggests a narrative that may blur the lines between what is real and what could be imagined or altered by the characters’ experiences.
But it can also be something different, I have untill now no idea. Cause Ton Kla’s fingerprints are all over the murderweapon of the unknown victim. How is Win going to handle that? Do we see the events in the wrong order?
Additionally, thereās the bribed chief of Win, who has taken over Dome’s case. He seems to be under the influence of powerful individuals, and Win is being followed. Could Title’s family be behind this? It hints at a deeper conspiracy, which raises questions about power dynamics and who is pulling the strings behind the scenes.
And what about Nam? Is she possibly Tyme’s sister or another victim of Great’s parents?
Thus far, this episode has left us with more questions than answers. It certainly pushes the boundaries of Thai BL, particularly with its daring portrayal of intimacy.
As a Dutch viewer, I find that seeing a manās private parts in a TV series is not new to me; I witnessed such depictions quite often in the eighties, which now seems long past. However, it appears that Thai BL, or should I say BOC, has entered a boundary-breaking era.
Win is portrayed in a vulnerable light, and Ton Kla’s experiences are depicted with raw honesty, including the intimate scenes. The tender deflowering of Ton Kla by Korn in happier times highlights their deep affection for one another they once had.
Moreover, the first encounter between Great and Tyme is particularly poignant, possibly marking their first experiences with a man. Tyme’s concern for Great is evident in his gentle gesturesāa peck on the forehead, a playful bite on the noseāfollowed by a moment of anticipation as he waits for Great to respond. Even then, Tyme’s gaze remains attentive, ensuring that Great is alright, both in that moment and beyond.
Bible has some gorgeous thighs, especially with the tats! Pure perfection! I love Bible’s ability inhabit his characters. I loved him in KP and the complete contrasting character to Great. Truly this man is talented!
This episode didnāt really shed light on the plot for me.
No clear progress on who was actually murdered and why.
But hey, Tonklaās dream came true; heāll be expecting soon! š
Oh, Great saved the girl and ended up in bed with the doctor. Other than that, ummmā¦
Still, itās quite surprising to see Bible play such a sweet and sensitive character. Itās a complete 180 from the cruel Sadist role that fit him like a glove and stuck to him like glue, as they say.ā
There’s only 4 episodes remaining. Halfway into the series and there’s more guesses and questions. I hope this will wrap up well with all clear explanations and leave no plot hole.
Tonkla is the focus in this episode. So who’s the real main character(s) of the series?
Personally, I want to see more of Great and Tyme in action (not that mind you). They should be Sherlock and Watson or Sam and Dean searching for evidence, solving mystery, blowing up covers and taking down villains.
I’ve got no words to describe the roller coaster of emotions i’m feeling about this episode. Bunch of cliff hangers here and there, the sex, the intimacy, the confusion and all the “holy shit” moment… Are they on a parallel universe? Back in time? Reliving memories or righting their wrongs? Revenge? Idk idk idk! I literally cannot wait for the next episodes. I really like how BOC actors are so goooood and professional. Its the dedication and efforts for me. Kudos!
Even though the idea of different timelines seems plausible, I don’t think it’s the case here. The way the characters are interacting and how their lives are woven even though they never met before doesn’t give a “multi-universe” vibe to the story. I think the way the scenes are put together is meant to make us believe that multiple timelines are involved which is easier to consider as a theory since we’re dealing with some type of time travel and changing events.
My theory :
Everything is happening in the same timeline, however the events we are being shown are in disorder. Great saved Dome, Dome wasn’t badly injured so he was discharged from the hospital days later then killed by [unknown]; My theory still stands Tonkla is the culprit although he doesn’t really know what he did so the flashbacks of Dome coming back home did actually happen and Tonkla somehow erased that memory because of “his other personality or trauma or drug addiction. So what Tonkla is seeing are actually memories not the future or another timeline.
i honestly don’t know if we’re in the Past , Future or Present my head hurt thinking about it but today’s episode slaps ..the nudity and the fact Tyme and Great perfect scene happened in the 4th episode
I can’t help it i like Korn, while i agree with others, he is not a good boyfriend, i can understand him. Maybe i’m wrong but i feel like he want to do well because it was his mom’s company, the last thing he has from her. I don’t think it’s to please his dad like others said, i wouldn’t be surprised if she was killed. Now he has to navigate in the shitty situation his dad put him through, thus less time for Tonkla (who i find sus). But you can see he isn’t a bad guy, i just don’t want his relationship with his baby brother become bad.
I’m going to focus on Tonkla who I think is probably having a similar symptom as Great. Similar with respect that Great sees in his mind a couple of times making out with Tyme.
In Tonkla’s case, he has this tingling sense that his deceased brother just called him.
Fact is Dome passed away and was cremated. So, how is it that we just watched him discharged from the hospital and on his way to his brother. The only possibility is a parallel world triggered when Great reversed 4 minutes and saved Dome. Thus, there exists one world where Dome died and the other where he was saved.
Tonkla had a similar sense back in episode 1 immediately after Korn left for his family’s dinner. He thought he had seen his deceased cat lurking in the dark. I had to go back to episode 1 as soon as I saw the dead cat in Tonkla’s memory.
Supernatural 6 sense – He could see the ghost of his cat and hear his ghost brother’s call.
Below is from episode 1.
Now who is Mr Anuwat Warindej?
Ending got me confused. š¤š¤
I will try to understand by reading comments. Also
Despite all the screen time Tonkla got with two different people, I felt no chemistry compared to the sparks between Great and Tymeš But now youāre telling me all that might be fake?! With the different timelines?! Aaaah literally I’m stressed…
August 17, 2024 (5:35 AM)
āļø4 Minutes, Episode 4
Is the cop went out of the room really naked? (No boxer/brief?!). For Ton Kla, it’s obvious… These couple from DFF is really daring in their scenes, and include also Korn… They are more daring than the main couple (as of Episode 4). Win’s gun is aiming š
I’m getting confused!!! Who is Dome to Ton Kla? The younger brother? I thought he was saved by Great from Title and was hospitalized, so why… Timeline/parallel words make my head spinning šāWhat can I say, what can I say, Daddy Korn is NOT back in the gameā šš. OUR ENEMIES have succeeded š¤š¤£š.
Korn needs to keep his promises and get his man BACK. Cause how are you letting little Mr. Cop who just came into the picture yesterday move in with the LOVE OF UR LIFE š. The man you promised to marry and to tell the world he belongs to YOU š.
Nahhhhhh I refuse to accept that this is the end for us š¤£šš¤£.
As for Great and Tyme š« š¦š„µ, fxck me upside down and in the splits. The nose bite, soft touches, the sensual thrust š«¦ā¦ā¦ they really had me sing āYo pum, pum is paradise
Mi love look in your eyes
And tell you mi a come babyā¦ā¦.
And if mi die tonight, tell yo puāy pray for meā šš½šš½
Dome is Tonklaās brotherš¤ā¦ā¦.
Also, when Tonkla turned around after hearing Dome call his name, he was no longer visible outside the gate.
So Greatās 4 minutes power is because he is in a different timeline. Which has something to do with him being hospitalised in ep1.
And Tonkla is living in the real timeline and not the one Greatās in.
We are dealing with multiple timelines here (or just 2). Either they are crisscrossing (seeing how there was 2 bodies discovered) or does a new one starts right when Great goes back in time? Is he going back and forth? Are they purposely showing us each TL seamlessly to throw us off? Are they making us believe it is one continuous reality.š§ ā¦..Because šØ that was def another timeline at the end.
Dome is Tonklaās brother. Dome died the first time around Great goes back 4 minutes and saves Dome + Title and him fight. He hits Title with a rock, takes his car and speeds Dome to the hospital. The scene we saw of Tonkla with the rock could be him getting his revenge and killing Title in one of those timelines. This is why one of my theories, the coma one, makes sense. Itās as if he keeps going back to when things went wrong and is trying to fix it.
Who the f is Anuwat Warindej? Title? Tonkla? Someone else? and why were they on cops azz when he was supposed to be off the case .š§ The chick and Great having the same vision of them being in the same room nd seeing each other is š®
Im LMAOān at how Tonkla gets azz almost every episode. They keep showing us much of his story and not enough about Tyme nd Great. Either way im entertained but I guess he is an important part of whatās going on with Great? because why else??? Korn Korn Korn.. u took an innocent Tonkla and turned him into the h0e he is now šāāļø I was so proud of Tonkla for kickin Korn out at the house. IT WAS DESERVED. Korn has let him down so many times. From broken promises, to cheating, to not being there when needed. Itās about time Tonkla set him straight for once. Stillā¦ there is something about Tonkla that is justā¦ suspicious.
EDIT: Imagine the drama being called for 4min has us all thinking oh he coded for 4 min.. when it could be that he is in a coma and the number 4 on top of the hospital bed in ep 1 was the last thing he saw before he drifted away.. therefore these “4min” are based off that š¤£.. im talkin out my azz but imagine if I was right šµš¤£
A new theory
Tonkla killed his brother because his brother killed Tonklaās cat. As they said it looks like a revenge murder. Haha š šš¤£
Korn did not keep his promise to call and act with Tonkla as a boyfriend not just a sex toy. He came to Tonkla like it was his home (did he really buy a house for him or it were just bla bla bla) and did not even give a hug after not seeing him in weeks
Wow, my adrenaline this ep. It was PUMPING!š So much unraveled. Iām loving the pace of this ā NO nonsense!ā¤ļø
Iām putting my moral compass aside for this episode bc all those s ex scenes had me in various stages of …
( had to borrow this again, thanksš)
Folks, the ābananasā that were peeledš³š¤š¤£
P.S. Please donāt be offended by all this, Iām just having some naughty fun here, lolšš¤£
We are running on three timelines.The past, the present and the fake one. Currently we’ve been seeing the past one interwoven with the fake one because it’s all in Great’s head. I’ll use Dome’s situation as an example. Great is in a coma because something most likely happened to him. Was he attacked as well? Maybe. So the real past timeline is Win secretly investigating for Tonkla about his brother’s death.The present day one is Tonkla outside with the garden hose. So how do we explain the whole nurse talking to Dome if Great isn’t present for that scene and it’s supposed to be all in Great’s head. That is because his brain is playing a fill-in-the-blanks sort of deal where everyone else around him plays a sort of NPC role. So both the nurse and Dome talking to each other are fulfilling the same type of NPC role for Great’s brain.
The reason why I went for the NPC roles and it’s totally unrelated to the show itself but the reason being is that in dissociative identity disorder (totally unrelated) when the brain develops an inner world for alters, there are NPC characters that some systems create that make their inner world more realistic. I’m only relating this to one system I know of online. So of course Great doesn’t have D.I.D but it’s his coma state maybe he’s be dreaming, possibly lucid dreaming so everything seems real to him. But because it’s not reality and because it’s unstable certain elements of real life keep bl**ding through like Tyme’s apology on the coffee/tea cup that he got for Great. The drink isn’t real but the apology is. Or maybe the drink is from one moment in time while the apology is from another. Or maybe the apology isn’t real but the drink is.
Ok. The the beginning on NC Great and Tyme had so much warm feelings. The way Tyme touched Greatās face and tapping his finger agaiat his forehead like Tyme was absorbing the feeling he got from kissing Great. The hair touching and kissing his forehead to calm Great.ā¦.
FULL SPOILER(that is, if I understood everything correctly, haha!š„“)ā¦ So Nan is the sis or friend of Tyme. Dome was the friend of Nan that was murdered, who also happens to be Tonklaās baby bro that was murdered? The charactersā lives are interwoven, and we know how now. Now we just need to know more of the whys and about the full meaning of the 4 minutes and looking into the future connectionš
We have also confirmed that Great and Kornās parents are responsible for the death of Tymeās parents, which also confirms that Korn and Greatās family name is full of corruption, sins and deeds from long ago. Who is
Who has that full name??? ā¦ Lol! The cop didnāt miss a beat proposing living with Tonkla to āprotectā him from the baddies ready to ki ll the both of themš Yo, first things firstš„µ …
When Korn rolled up demanding sexual pleasures, not even apologizing for not having called back and the way Tonkla told him to get the F out was just awesome and satisfying to watchš But I do wonder if he would have had s ex with him anyways if the cop wasnāt there hidingš It took Korn weeks to show up without even a call?!šš¬- we got our answer. He doesnāt love or see Tonkla in a serious manner or just takes him for granted that heāll always be there since he was his first. That flashback to their university days also filled in some of the missing pieces regarding their relationship. Korn and Tonkla arenāt that far in age. That surprised me. Korn was Tonklaās first, which makes sense now. No wonder he fell for him so hard. Korn seduced him and taught him how to have s ex and the rest was history. Korn promised to tell everyone Tonkla is his boyfriend when he takes over the company in the future but forgot to emotionally take care of him in the processš He even said the L- wordš So either Korn is the biggest manipulative abuser, grooming his junior back then or he actually cared, and his family expectations got in the way.
Iām guessing when Tonkla finds out Kornās family is behind the death of his bro, he wonāt want to be with Korn anymore and will likely seek some revenge? Is Korn going to end up saving Tonkla from death bc he cares underneath it all? Korn tried to save Nan from death, and it looked like he didnāt know his parents had Tonklaās bro kil led. So, Iām really hoping Tyme, Great, & Co team up and take down all the bad guys!š
Tonkla and Mr Cop got a lot of lust going onš„ Iām now hoping Tonkla isnāt just using the cop to get s ex the way he wants it, feel less lonely, and/ or only for someone to solve his brotherās case. If Tonkla isn’t, he just proved that money isnāt what heās after bc Mr. Cop canāt financially provide for him at the same level that Korn can. But he can sure deliver on the emotional support and sexapades in the sack, lol Mr. sexy, naked Cop looked sad laying in that bed knowing heās nr. 2 for Tonkla, as he sat next to the bed smoking, reminiscingš
Someone forgot to tell Great not to do undercover detective work wearing white clothes in the bushesš SMH I think itās eye-opening how Great quickly believed Tyme and helped him out, tricking Korn to hang out and get the info he needed to save Nan. He really doesnāt trust his family/ family name, eh?! I canāt wait till next ep bc this ep was thrilling!ššš
P.S. Great & Tyme s ex scene was sweet and gave me all the fluttersš„° That smile, I’m…š«
Tonkla is the main characterā¦.
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Y’ALL I wasn’t expecting to see win with a full d- out and about ????? lmao was it an editing mistake?!?! šššš I don’t mind but it really caught me by surprise I almost choked on the juice I was drinking šš also I’m so glad Nan was saved ; v; the guns part was kinda funny too lol spider man meme 4minutes version haha
Great and Tyme scenes were so sweet omg when Tyme started fixing Great’s hair and then the little kisses oh man that was soooo sweet ofc not to mention when they did the act haha so good!!! The ending got me really confused though, different timelines and all…well I guess this series really is one of those that you really have to watch until the very end of it to understand everything….hopefully it really is the case ‘cus right now I’m just that math lady meme lol